Ezra Klein

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767 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

I want to go back now to the entry-level jobs question. voice-verified

Your CEO, Dario Amadei, has said that he thinks AI could displace half of all entry-level white-collar jobs in the next couple of years. voice-verified

I always think that the people sort of miss the entry-level language there when I see it reported on. voice-verified

But first, do you agree with that? voice-verified

Do you worry that half of all entry-level white-collar jobs can be replaced in the next couple of years? voice-verified

But let's talk about that maybe not even being a naive expectation. voice-verified

You say it's already happening at Anthropic, that what you're seeing— I'm seeing a shift of preference, exactly. voice-verified

And where we are right now, I mean, even in the way I use some of these systems— voice-verified

It is rare, I think, that Claude or ChatGPT or Gemini or any of the other systems is better than the best person in a field. voice-verified

It has not heavily breached that. voice-verified

And there's all kinds of things they can't do. voice-verified

But are they better than your median college graduate at a lot of things? voice-verified

Yeah, they are. voice-verified

And in a world where... voice-verified

you need fewer of your median college graduates. voice-verified

One thing I've seen people arguing about is whether these systems at this point can do better than sort of average or replacement level work. voice-verified

But I always really worry when I see that, because once we have accepted they can do average or replacement level work, well, by definition, most of the work done and most of the people doing it- Is average. voice-verified

Is average, right? voice-verified

The best people are the exceptions. voice-verified

And also, the way people become better is that they have jobs where they learn. voice-verified

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