Ezra Klein
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1,272 appearances
3 recordings
1 series
first heard Mar 2026
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Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Well, one way to slow AI down is to constrict the number of data centers you can build.
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Just like you've done, you know, as good reporting as anybody on just how conflicted people even working for these companies seem to be about what they are building.
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they're in this competitive race to build it as quickly as possible.
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And so it makes them a pretty unconvincing pro faction.
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Yeah.
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We're building the thing we're telling you to be afraid of and we need to build it as fast as possible, even though we sort of admit that it would be better if the whole thing was slowed down.
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It's very confusing.
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It's a weird argument.
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Yeah,
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So then how do you reconcile what?
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many of these executives, many of these AI company workers are telling you about their fears of creating an underclass, about their fears of losing control.
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I mean, we just saw the situation where OpenAI's model was breaking out of a sandbox in order to sort of cheat on its evaluation, right?
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So the AI safety people are very worried, right?
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The safety teams in here clearly don't have full control or even understanding of what they're building.
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How do you reconcile, if you reconcile,
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the way the AI companies talk when they are giving voice to their fears or the people at them talk when they're giving voice to their fears.
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And they're like pretty profound hostility to anything that would slow down how fast we are building this thing whose consequences they freely admit they cannot predict.
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I would not build that.
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it's... Sam Bankman-Fried.
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middle narrative.
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