Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard yesterday

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here · 11 Sep 2026 podcast

And, you know, you want to do drug discovery. voice-verified

And I think we should actually do a lot to make drug discovery easier, make drug testing easier, right? voice-verified

Like I've said this many times before, I would like to see us prepare like drug development for a world where AI is spitting out way more promising molecular candidates. voice-verified

But that's still a world where you need enough monkeys to test things on, humans to test things on, rats to test things on, right? voice-verified

And you still need to do all the safety data. voice-verified

And just the amount of the world that is slowed down by we don't have any good ideas, like we are out of ideas versus it is hard to organize things amidst humans, you know, with raw materials, like in bureaucracies, in organizations. voice-verified

Intelligence is important, but it is not everything. voice-verified

And I think anybody who's been in organizations knows it's actually less than you think it is. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

Building efficiency. voice-verified

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I used to say that this was back when Silicon Valley was a more optimistic place than it has been in recent years. voice-verified

But the difference between the culture of DC, where I lived for a long time, and of Silicon Valley was that in Silicon Valley, people's worldview is formed by seeing impossible problems prove possible to solve. voice-verified

And in DC, people's worldview is formed by seeing possible problems prove impossible to solve. voice-verified

And I think that is now going to collapse for the industry into one worldview, because, you know, these are people who give them their due. voice-verified

They've invented artificial intelligence like they actually did it. voice-verified

You know, this is amazing. voice-verified

Like, I cannot believe how good some of these systems are. voice-verified

I'm like shocked to be living through this. voice-verified

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