Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 2d ago

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

And what they're now going to spend all their time doing is absorbing B plus level reports from an AI system as opposed to the kind of shortcuts, the actual thinking and learning process that leads to real creativity. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

All of us, I think, have the experience that our work is full of what you call schlep problems, our life is full of schlep problems. voice-verified

Give me examples of what you now don't do. voice-verified

To the extent you're living in an AI-enabled future that I'm not, what am I wasting time on that you're not? voice-verified

I've often wondered if one of the ways these AI systems are going to change society broadly is that it used to be that most of us had to be writers if we were working with text. voice-verified

We had to be coders if we were working with code, which relatively few of us did. voice-verified

And now... voice-verified

Everybody's moving up to management. voice-verified

You have to be an editor, not a writer. voice-verified

You have to be a product manager, not a coder. voice-verified

And that has pluses and minuses. voice-verified

There are things you learn as a writer that you don't learn as an editor. voice-verified

But as a heuristic, how accurate does that seem to you? voice-verified

So I remember it was about a year ago, I heard, I think it was Dario, your CEO, say that by the end of 2025, he wanted 90% of the code written at Anthropic to be written by Claude. voice-verified

Has that happened? voice-verified

Is Anthropic on track for that? voice-verified

I mean, how much coding is now being done by the system itself? voice-verified

But it is also true, as I understand it, that there are more people with software engineering skills working at Anthropic today than there were two years ago. voice-verified

Let me put a pin in that, the entry-level job question. voice-verified

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