Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 2d ago

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

You've been around these policy debates for a long time. voice-verified

You've been tracking model capabilities in your newsletter for a long time. voice-verified

My perception is we are many, many years into the debate about AI and jobs. voice-verified

Many, many years, dating far before ChatGPT, of there being conferences at Aspen and everywhere else about, you know, what are we going to do about AI and jobs? voice-verified

And somehow, I still see almost no policy that seems to me to be actionable if the situation I just described begins showing up, where all of a sudden, entry-level jobs are getting much harder to come by across a large range of industries. voice-verified

all at once, such that the economy cannot reshift all these marketing majors into data center construction or nurses or something. voice-verified

So, okay, you've been deeper in this conversation than I've been. voice-verified

When you say we can have a policy conversation about that, we've been having a policy conversation. voice-verified

Do we have policy? voice-verified

I always find this answer depressing. voice-verified

I'm going to be honest. voice-verified

Unemployment is a terrible thing to be on. voice-verified

It's a program we need, but people on unemployment are not happy about it. voice-verified

And it's not a good long-term solution for anybody. voice-verified

Apprentice retraining programs, they don't have great track records. voice-verified

We were not good at retraining people out of having their manufacturing jobs outsourced. voice-verified

I'm not saying it is conceptually impossible that we could get better at it, but we would need to get better at it fast. voice-verified

And we have not been putting in the reps or the experimentation or the institution or capacity building to do that. voice-verified

And the broader question of big social insurance changes doesn't seem... voice-verified

I mean, it seems tough to me. voice-verified

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