Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 2d ago

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

in that big bang, everybody stays home because of COVID style way, it worries me less. voice-verified

Because when things are emergencies, we respond. voice-verified

But if you told me that what's going to happen is that the unemployment rate for marketing graduates voice-verified

is going to go up by 175%, 300%, to still not be that high. voice-verified

I mean, the overall employment rate during the Great Recession topped around in the nine-ish percentile range. voice-verified

So you can have a lot of disruption without having 50% of people thrown out of work, right? voice-verified

If you have 10%, 15%, I mean, that's very, very, very high. voice-verified

But it's not so high. voice-verified

And if it's only happening in a couple of industries at a time, and it's grads, not everybody in the industry being thrown out of work, well, maybe it's just that you're not good enough. voice-verified

Right? voice-verified

You know, the superstar is a really good graduate is still getting jobs. voice-verified

You should have worked harder. voice-verified

You should have gone to a better school. voice-verified

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One of my worries is that we don't respond to that kind of job displacement well, right? voice-verified

Which is the kind of job displacement we got from China, which is the kind of job displacement that seems likelier because it's uneven and it's happening at a rate where we can still blame people for their own fortunes. voice-verified

I'm curious how you think about that story. voice-verified

let's talk about the policy discussion. voice-verified

One reason I wanted to have you in particular on is you did policy at OpenAI. voice-verified

You do policy at Anthropix. voice-verified

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