Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 2d ago

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

One thing I've seen people arguing about is whether these systems at this point can do better than sort of average or replacement level work. voice-verified

But I always really worry when I see that, because once we have accepted they can do average or replacement level work, well, by definition, most of the work done and most of the people doing it- Is average. voice-verified

Is average, right? voice-verified

The best people are the exceptions. voice-verified

And also, the way people become better is that they have jobs where they learn. voice-verified

I mean, I have spent a lot of time hiring young journalists over my career. voice-verified

And when you hire people out of college, to some degree, you're hiring them for their possible articles and work at that exact moment. voice-verified

But to some degree, you're making an investment in them that you think will only pay off over time as they get better and better and better. voice-verified

So this world where you have a potential real impact on entry-level jobs, and that world does not feel far away to me, seems to me to have really profound questions it is raising about the upskilling of the population, how you end up with people for senior-level jobs down the road, what people aren't learning along the way. voice-verified

If you had to bet three years from now, is the unemployment rate for college graduates voice-verified

Is it the same as it is now? voice-verified

Is it higher? voice-verified

Is it lower? voice-verified

I know you can't predict those new jobs, but if you had to guess what some of them might look like... voice-verified

So the version of this that I both worry about and think to be the likeliest, if you told me what was going to happen was that Anthropic was going to release Claude Plus in a year. voice-verified

And Claude Plus is somehow a fully formed coworker. voice-verified

And it can mimic end-to-end the skills of a lot of different professions up to the C-suite level. voice-verified

Mm-hmm. voice-verified

and it's gonna happen all at once, and it's gonna create tremendous all-at-once pressure for businesses to downsize, to remain competitive with each other. voice-verified

At a policy level, the fact that that would be so disruptive voice-verified

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