Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 2d ago

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

It is that the resources going into that compared to the resources going into speeding these systems. voice-verified

And already I am reading anthropic reports that Claude maybe knows when it's being tested and alters its behavior accordingly. voice-verified

So a world where more of the code is being written by Claude and less of it is being understood is voice-verified

I just know where the resources are going. voice-verified

They don't seem to be going into the testing side. voice-verified

I want to go back now to the entry-level jobs question. voice-verified

Your CEO, Dario Amadei, has said that he thinks AI could displace half of all entry-level white-collar jobs in the next couple of years. voice-verified

I always think that the people sort of miss the entry-level language there when I see it reported on. voice-verified

But first, do you agree with that? voice-verified

Do you worry that half of all entry-level white-collar jobs can be replaced in the next couple of years? voice-verified

But let's talk about that maybe not even being a naive expectation. voice-verified

You say it's already happening at Anthropic, that what you're seeing— I'm seeing a shift of preference, exactly. voice-verified

And where we are right now, I mean, even in the way I use some of these systems— voice-verified

It is rare, I think, that Claude or ChatGPT or Gemini or any of the other systems is better than the best person in a field. voice-verified

It has not heavily breached that. voice-verified

And there's all kinds of things they can't do. voice-verified

But are they better than your median college graduate at a lot of things? voice-verified

Yeah, they are. voice-verified

And in a world where... voice-verified

you need fewer of your median college graduates. voice-verified

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