Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 3d ago

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

So when you look forward, not five years, because I think that's hard to do, but one year. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

We've kind of pushed into agents fairly fast. voice-verified

We've pushed into code. voice-verified

I think a lot of people think code might be different than other things because it's a more contained environment and it's easier to see if what you're doing has worked. voice-verified

But from your perspective of being inside one of these companies and also running a newsletter where you obsessively track the developments of a million AI systems that I've never heard of week on week on week... voice-verified

What do you see coming now? voice-verified

What feels to you like it is clearly on the horizon, but we're not quite prepared for it or won't feel until it's arrived? voice-verified

I'm very curious about how you think... voice-verified

even having that ongoing conversation with the systems changes you. voice-verified

So let me, I'll say it from my perspective. voice-verified

One thing I have noticed is that Claude is very, very, very smart. voice-verified

It is smarter than most people who know about a thing in any given thing. voice-verified

That is my experience of it. voice-verified

But it is not in the way that other people are, an independent entity, voice-verified

that is rooted in its own concerns and intuitions and differences. voice-verified

What it is instead is a computer system trying to adapt itself to what it thinks I want. voice-verified

So as I've talked to it much more about issues in my life, about issues in my work, various kind of intellectual inquiries or reporting inquiries where I'm trying to voice-verified

figure out questions that as of yet, I'm at a sort of early stage of exploration. voice-verified

What I've noticed over time is that one difference about in talking to it is it is always a yes and. voice-verified

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