Fearne Cotton

Since I last saw you in 2023, so much has changed.

I mean, you're going to know a lot more about this than I will.

But in terms of science, neuroscience, how we talk about therapy, how we talk about the brain, what do you think you've either learned or changed tact with since 2023 in terms of your work or how you even approach the subject of mental health?

And also, I guess your readers, the people that follow your work, they're going to be ready.

They've read your first books and now they're like, and what's next?

And I think the conversation is still a long way to go if we look at...

Talking about therapy, making it more accessible to everybody, the whole conversation.

But it feels more in flow maybe than when we first met.

It's one of the reasons your book blew up so massively because it was needed.

People needed to have the tips, the tools, and we certainly still do.

But it feels like we're ready now.

Dr. Julie, tell us.

Yeah, brave and definitely disciplined, which no one wants to hear because it sounds so boring.

But the – I mean, I've said this on other podcast episodes that I've done, but –

The shift for me, not that I'm by any means like I've nailed it, but like a big positive shift in my life in terms of how I think about myself more so because that was not good before, has been the consistency of going to therapy once a week, which I feel very privileged to do, but also dedicating each day to remembering what the hell I just talked about or any ideas that came from that or moves that could be made because of what I've just discovered or done.

talked about got curious about on that occasion and i think we you know we do live in a world now where we all just want a quick fix in whatever way like i want the shoes i'm going to feel better um i'm going to eat that thing and then i'm going to get a dopamine hit dr julie tell me a tip and then my life will change it's actually it's every bloody day until we die

Yeah.

And also you have to know, you have to, I think you have to like yourself, right?

To bother doing it.

Because if you don't, if you've got low self-esteem, just like, what's the point?