Fearne Cotton

Yeah, that switch, because I've heard you talk about this before, the prey predator thing.

And it's applicable to so many situations in life where we feel out of control, like I'm the victim of something happening to me.

Yeah.

And actually for you to be able to find that

empowerment that autonomy to go I'm going to turn the tables here I've got more power than actually I'm I can see and I'm going to do something about it I think that is so game-changing for people in so many situations yeah and I think it's you know agency is is one of the fundamentals the sort of core thing about mental health is if you feel that you can't have any sense of agency or

In a situation like yours or in other ones where you do feel like you're out of control initially or there's just big feelings coming up, whether it's anxiety, sorrow, anger, I'm always confused as to how much we're meant to honour those feelings and lean into them versus go...

I'm not going there because that's going to make me feel worse.

Like the whole theory of whatever you resist persists versus I'm choosing to not torture myself by constantly feeling sad, angry, anxious, whatever it might be.

I love that visual.

I've totally experienced that.

I used to try and delete whole sections of my past.

Press delete.

Goodbye.

It doesn't exist anymore.

Gone.

To the point where I can't remember certain things.

My memory's fucked from it.

And actually, a lot of the therapy I've done has been...

looking at certain things properly and uncomfortably so, but I can now hold the folder like I'm holding it.

And it's so relieving to be in that place.