Fei Fei Li

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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard · Fei Fei Li (on a human-centered approach to AI) · 11 Dec 2024 podcast
Great question. I was trying to ask myself that question when I was writing the book, and I still don't have a strong answer. I think the early curiosity, the exposure came from both my parents. My dad loved nature. My mom loved books and literature. But how did I fell in love with physics and UFOs and all that? I'm not totally sure. It could be my dad before he came to New Jersey.
He was ordering me some magazines outside of the school reading. And that exposed me to those topics. And because my parents protected my curiosity, when I say protected, it really just meant they left it alone. They didn't meddle with it. I kind of followed it through myself.
Yeah.
It was tough. I mean, it was early teenagehood. There was no internet. Phone calls are extremely expensive to the point of being prohibitively expensive. So it was mostly letters every couple of months. But then I was a teenager, so I had my own world to explore as well. So it wasn't like I was sitting in the room crying or anything.
Persephone High School.
A group of ESL students were in the library and then the bell rang or something. We have to file out of the library door. And I remember it was crowded. I honestly did not see what happened to that boy. But all I knew was my ESL teacher.
Yeah, I mean, nobody would be the same after going through something like that. Definitely, it's a huge impact. It was an experience that was definitely pretty intense for all ESL students. Nobody felt safe for a long while.
Yes, but also I do want to give more colors, right? I love that your show focuses on the messiness of being human. Being messy is being multidimensional. But it was also an environment where there was so much support. There was so much friendliness there. And there was also so much opportunity. So it was very confusing. I'm not trying to say that experience itself is not heavy.
I don't feel lucky about that experience. And I mean, there was anger and all that. But in the meantime, the fuller context of that community was also quite a supportive community. So it was very confusing. It gave me the multidimensionality of the new country. I landed in... Everything's happening.
I always felt I had to keep my head down. Right. Especially as an immigrant, sometimes I feel that way even now, especially given the AI world we live in. I feel I need to keep my head down to do work. Of course, that particular event probably added a layer of complication, at least for a while. But it also taught me you have to stand up for yourself. It did open different insights to me.
Yeah, it's possibly in the top three for sure. Meeting Mr. Sabella was so lucky for me.
Yes. Mrs. Savella was my math teacher. I got into calculus and then Persepolis High School doesn't have calculus BC. We only had AP calculus for AB. So he had to teach me during his lunch hour for BC. But this story you're talking about was earlier. It was during some pre-calculus stuff and it turned out I was using a broken calculator. Oh.
I know.
I love garage sales. I don't have time to go to garage sales, but I love it. Mr. Sabella was tough. He is a tough love kind of teacher. Even though I was ESL, I was this mousy girl. He didn't think I needed any extra.
No, not at all. For one quarter of semester, I got 89.4 or something. I still remember that. I was like, oh, God, 0.6. I would get to at least an A. And he would not give me that A. Uh-huh.
Yeah, he would say there are many smart kids in the class. You just have to work hard.
Well, I've read everything my mom gave me, which was extensive. Yeah.
I think he saw a person he could befriend with just the way I saw in him. Later on, I realized, again, this is hindsight, that he does that to so many students. And he used this way of opening up in different ways, not necessarily science fiction or classic literature, to really get to be so helpful.
For him and me, beyond math and calculator, when we started talking about science fiction and the English classics, he realized that he was seeing me more than an ESL kid at that point. And he's also a shy person himself. Later, his wife, Jean, and Bob, later I call him Bob, we became such good friends. Many, many years, way longer than maybe. Jean said he's such a bookworm.
Even during his family parties, he'll be by himself reading. Yeah. So he's totally an introvert in a way that we just had chemistry.
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