Fernando De Leon
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And then I had to convince engineers to do the work without me paying them.
They're like, but you're 24.
Why am I listening to you?
I'm like, come on, man, let's do this together.
And then it's like, I'll take you hunting or whatever.
Yeah.
I did.
I took these guys hunting.
They did some work for me, and they made good money.
Ultimately, I paid them because I was able to execute on this project.
But I don't know.
That isn't an economic thing.
It's not a capital constraint.
It was just like getting people to agree with you and follow you.
And so I think oftentimes it's about a little bit of tactical creativity and –
um, and finding, uh, people that want to advocate for you.
That person, by the way, that, that put that land into a partnership with me, his name is Harold Pullman.
And he, um, he was like in his early eighties.
And he, um, he actually told me, he said, that piece of land can't be developed.
I started, um,