Fernando De Leon
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And there was a very big moment, actually.
My grandmother, who was an extraordinarily tough and resilient woman, she had widowed with seven children at the age of 29.
Wow.
And she was a tough lady in that part of the world for her to run a farm, a ranch.
As a woman with seven children, you had to be extremely tough.
And she was.
She was very well known as a resilient and tough lady who happened.
My grandmother happened to be friends with a union leader in our town.
And the developer that was building a facility, a manufacturing plant, he needed permits, like job permits.
And you have to get those job permits from the union.
And so I asked my grandma, I said, Grandma, you're friends with this union leader, right?
And she said, oh, yeah, that man has been in love with me since I was 15 years old.
And and so I said, well, can you set up an appointment for me?
So, of course, I showed up at this union leader's office and it was like out of a Godfather movie.
I mean, dark room.
He was fidgeting with a gun.
I mean, it was it was it was and I was 14 or 15 years old.
Pretty much.
We say it all the time.
Exactly.