Fiona Fung

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, actually, what's really fun, one of my, you know, previous managers, I mean, he started software engineer when it was punch cards.

And it's so fabulous.

Like he's been messaging me everything he's been building with cloud code.

And I'm like, wow, what a career that you go from.

Like he's really like he, you know, he's really kind of like seeing this whole

change so maybe I think for us to think about is like when I think about his career how he got started with punch cards was also totally totally different than than now and so it might be that um I think it'll be interesting for us to see what remains important and then what changes in terms of importance and then it's like how do you um kind of gain like I have a theory maybe maybe that's the the what is important will shift over time and then how do you kind of uh

kind of build the proficiency in doing that.

Yeah.

And it's maybe like, okay, what is the interesting problem?

And what's the prioritization for experience to build?

Maybe we're kind of, yeah.

And then when you build things, how do you know it's actually resonating?

And it's kind of like doing what you intended.

Yeah.

Well, because the rate of change is also so fast.

Actually, that was the one thing.

I remember the first time, it was probably Sonnet 3.5 or 3.6.

And I remembered, I was still making some mistakes when I was doing things on the side.