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Fiona Fung

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Cloud is very good when you give it a framework to validate against those frameworks.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

So I had mentioned like, you know, or like, you know, like recently we just updated like content design to have a skill in it.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Like my, like I, and this is why like, I think if you have specs or like, or like, like check those into the repo and then make sure the spec also keeps up to date with the code like frequently.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

But that's what I found like works really well of any time you have like a statement of what good looks like.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

get that into the repo and then Code Review can make sure it's still matching what you set up to do.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Yes.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

For TDD, it's because I remember that was like a big thing, my gosh, maybe like in the 2000s of write the test first and then you can like make sure the test fails.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Then you do actually the code in principle is really good.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

But I think I know I remembered I myself struggling a bit because it was almost like you have to eat the broccoli first because I was like,

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

oh, you have to write this test first.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

And I just get so much thrill out of shipping and building product.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

So it's funny.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Actually, the first bug I fixed on Cloud Code, I remember asking Cloud, hey, I want to do test-driven development.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Help me write the test first.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Make sure it fails.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

And then we'll actually do the fix.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

And then now the test passed.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

And

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

The fact that that used to be, you know, like that test generation used to just be this tax that I remember having to pay.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Building the most AI-pilled engineering team in the world | Fiona Fung (Manager of the Claude Code and Cowork Teams)

Like the fact that that's not automated and you can even revisit all these principles that have been around for a while, but now they actually might be even more efficient just because you have the models that can do more of the work for you.