Frances Fry

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658 appearances 6 recordings 2 series first heard Jul 2025 last heard 24 May

Frances Fry’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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And it's both marathon work lives that other people are imposing on us, perhaps, but we also do it ourselves.
Like, we're taking our smartphone to bed.
I got to tell you, I don't think it's because anyone else is imposing anything on us.
I think it's an inside job.
And it's a great time to experiment, to your point.
The world seems very open.
Everyone is palpably feeling the problem.
Now's a great time to experiment with solutions.
So Frances, is there some kind of optimal schedule here?
There is not.
So interestingly, intentionality gets the headline.
You have to be intentional about the off time, but it doesn't say you have to do it between the hours of nine and five and you have to do it from here to there.
There was no evidence that one was universally better than the other, but the intentionality of the off, that was the key ingredient.
So my operations DNA will say that you have two tools.
If there's something that you need to not get the full strength of it, you either reduce it or you accommodate it.
Those are my only two choices?
Those are your only two choices.
So you either reduce or accommodate.
So by reducing, I think that's what I do, which is I reduce the amount that I let other people's emotions influence me by limiting my interaction with other people.
Like I literally, I quarantine either them or me and that's reduced.
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