Frances Fry

All of the rest of it.

Also, compensation, experiences, education.

You got to dial all of those way up to make up for what you have dialed way down, which is security.

So two things come to mind.

One is it's why we need a team so that no one of us is on 24-7, right, the great research by Leslie Perlow.

showed us that teams that share the 24-7 burden outperform teams where everyone is on 24-7.

So let's share the 24-7.

That's the first thing.

The second thing is what we know from the trauma ward, and I do think it's the right word, they have shorter shifts.

Mm-hmm.

And so you can do it, but understand that it's like you're metabolizing food and energy and stress at a very different rate.

And so you got to go off camera.

You got to go take timeouts at a much higher clip.

If it were you, Anne Morris, the amount of food you would have to consume, I mean, you eat how many times a day now?

You would just be eating nonstop.

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And I'm your co-host, Frances Fry.

I'm a Harvard Business School professor, and I'm Anne's wife.

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