Francesca Rudkin

As you speak about in your book, it is in our nature to connect and be positive.

Is it in our nature to naturally, are we naturally trusting beings?

It's funny, isn't it?

I think too that we need to remember that we're not keeping ourselves informed by just going on to our, whichever it is, Instagram or Twitter or whatever and feeding our own algorithm.

That's not being informed.

That's getting your position reinforced over and over again.

Yeah.

It's an issue.

It's an issue, yeah.

And when you were talking about that, I was thinking to myself, the issue is already interesting enough.

Why does it have to be so polar, two different perspectives like that, for us to sort of listen to it?

It's an interesting issue that needs to be addressed.

Yeah, I think we do need to know ourselves.

And I'm sitting here with Francesca who doesn't use social media and I do.

And I know at times if I go down a bit of a rabbit hole and things, I can lose myself quite quickly.

And I think you're right.

I think I will be taking that all off my phone.

I don't look on Twitter.

But I think you need to come back to yourself a little bit, don't you?

And I was just thinking too before about when you were talking about most of us.