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Fred Thiel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
140 total appearances

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The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Now, granted, great revenues.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

But if you can at least take the infrastructure down to a million dollars a megawatt.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

and solve that problem through modularizing a data center.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And in the world of inference, you don't need to have all these huge clusters that are interconnected.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

I think you start seeing all of a sudden an ability to take advantage of power in all sorts of very interesting places.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And just to be fair, you know, revenue generation in the world is only done through inference.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

That's what you pay for.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

You don't pay for training unless you're building models.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Yeah, so again, it's all about time to energization of the data center.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

So if you're a hyperscaler, you have a certain amount of capacity you want to have online by the end of 2026, a certain amount by the end of 27, 28, 29.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

As you get beyond 29,

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

There you can look at, I'm going to go build my own power generation because that's going to take a couple of years to three years just to get permitting, etc.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Anybody look at Vernova or GE Power's recent or Siemens Power recent earnings releases, their orders are up 260%.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

The queues are 36 months.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

to get equipment for generation.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

So building your own generation capacity is a long game.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Right now it's a capacity game and that's operational capacity because that's what drives market share.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And so they are looking for very fast ways to get online.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And that's more easily done by finding people that have power.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And so the value of powered land goes up very high.