Gabby Bernstein

And so that's, that's one of the greatest privileges of my life is to take someone else's body of work and translate it.

And so that's, that's one of the greatest privileges of my life is to take someone else's body of work and translate it.

The four-step is not IFS. It's an IFS-informed self-help practice. And that's really important for me to say, Lewis, because if you're going into IFS therapy, you have a therapist with you. You're doing a six-step inquiry, almost like an interview with the parts. It's like an unburdening process. You can work with firefighters and exiles. I am not doing that. I am not a therapist.

The four-step is not IFS. It's an IFS-informed self-help practice. And that's really important for me to say, Lewis, because if you're going into IFS therapy, you have a therapist with you. You're doing a six-step inquiry, almost like an interview with the parts. It's like an unburdening process. You can work with firefighters and exiles. I am not doing that. I am not a therapist.

I'm a spiritual self-help author and teacher. I am trained in internal family systems therapy, but I'm not a therapist. So it was really important for me to take this and make it IFS informed.

I'm a spiritual self-help author and teacher. I am trained in internal family systems therapy, but I'm not a therapist. So it was really important for me to take this and make it IFS informed.

So there's a four steps.

So there's a four steps.

IFS approved, IFS informed. It's backed with Dick's blessing. And it's the way that you can take this model into your own hands safely. Safely is a really important point.

IFS approved, IFS informed. It's backed with Dick's blessing. And it's the way that you can take this model into your own hands safely. Safely is a really important point.

Because I'm not trying to guide you to those exiled parts. The book is not trying to work with firefighters. That would be, and I say all throughout the book, like if this happens, if you're with a firefighter, there's an exile, go, there's an IFS therapist registry, go find somebody. But I'm trying to help you access these managers, the extreme parts that are with you all the time, day to day.

Because I'm not trying to guide you to those exiled parts. The book is not trying to work with firefighters. That would be, and I say all throughout the book, like if this happens, if you're with a firefighter, there's an exile, go, there's an IFS therapist registry, go find somebody. But I'm trying to help you access these managers, the extreme parts that are with you all the time, day to day.

And through a four-step inquiry, let self-help.

And through a four-step inquiry, let self-help.

So you let me know when you're ready for that.

So you let me know when you're ready for that.

I feel like I'm just so excited about this. This is my first real interview about this. So it's like very thrilling to me. Questions before I go on.

I feel like I'm just so excited about this. This is my first real interview about this. So it's like very thrilling to me. Questions before I go on.

Exactly.

Exactly.