Gabe Joseph

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Builders, Budgets, and Beers · Curiosity Over Ego: Specs & Real Margins · 10 Sep 2025 podcast

You're a business.

You should be looking after your business's interests first.

And part of that is don't associate with non-businesses that just happen to have a truck and a phone and a magnet slapped on the door.

That doesn't make them a business.

That just means they know how to paint or whatever.

But yeah, to us, we've always treated it as a business first, which means take care of your people first.

And by the way, that doesn't mean I'm not endorsing being cruel to the subs.

I'm not.

I think you got to be ruthless.

You got to be honest, but you don't have to mistreat them.

I think that's probably a mistake as well.

And I'm guilty of that in a lot of stories.

And sometimes it's necessary, but most of the time it's easier to just say, look, this guy's a loser.

Just get rid of him and get somebody else.

It's a good distinction to make, right?

I mean, I think if you're in a town and it's, you know, 50,000 people or less, yeah, there may only be five plumbers that do what you're doing.

And so you do have to be a little more diplomatic about it.

But if you're in a larger market, there are hundreds of people available to do this that are probably all about the same.

And the reason I say this, you know,

subcontractors are primarily what we refer to as labor pimping, right?

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