Gad Saad

And the guy who had started this whole thing was the owner of the building where my dad owned the store.

And if they could now get rid of them, the store would... So it wasn't even like a religious thing.

It was for one of the...

seven deadly sins of greed, at least as I understand it.

And anyways, and so at one point, they had separated my parents and they were trying to put a lot of pressure on each of them to sign this thing.

And they go to my mother and say, you know, admit that you're a spy, whatever, Israeli agent.

And she's like, are you crazy?

I mean, just go ask my husband, you know?

And they kind of mockingly say, oh, well, your husband has gone to join his God, meaning that they've already killed him.

So then my mother is in her little cell and they're doing bad things to them.

And she hears my dad late at night in some other part of wherever they were keeping him.

He had a very whooping kind of cough, like a cough as if like... Actually, I have a similar cough.

I used to be asthmatic, so I have this very deep and loud cough.

And so she was hearing that cough, but she wasn't sure if she's just hallucinating this in her thoughts or whether it was real.

Well, it turned out that they hadn't killed them, but they were just trying to lean in on her.

And so that's the background that I come from.

Unfortunately, yes.

And this is why, I mean, many times when I've come on this show, I've talked about some of those difficulties that all religions are not indistinguishable from each other.

I mean, religions have certain features that might be transferable from one religion to the other.

But there are many elements that are very specific to a given religion.