Gad Saad

Because there are mean Jews and nice Jews.

Mean Muslims, nice Muslims.

So many of the- So westernization of it.

So if there is a way to maintain

the Islamic heritage, there's Islamic architecture, there's Islamic poetry, there's Islamic philosophy.

There was a period under Islamic rule where many of the ancient texts from Greek philosophy were safeguarded by Islam, right?

So it's not as though that entire civilization is void of incredibly rich things, but there are unfortunately elements of the religion that are not congruent

with Western values.

If there is a way for us from this side of our mouth to honor Islamic architecture and poetry and from this side of our mouth forget the parts that says kill, kill, kill everyone, then I think you could have wonderful flourishing.

I'm not a huge Glenn Greenwald fan.

Many of the positions he's taken I've really liked.

He does seem to have a bit of the self-flagellation reflex when it comes to it all comes down to something that the U.S.

has done that's evil or something that Israel has done is evil.

So to our earlier conversation, there are features that ISIS believes in that they believe in independently of anything that the U.S.

could have ever done or will ever do.

If it weren't for us?

No.

No?

You don't think so?

No.