Gary Brecka

I would probably call that a hormetic stress, like microtrauma, which in a controlled environment done by someone like yourself that understands what they're doing can be a good thing.

I also know people that have over dermarollered themselves.

With scarring and stuff like that.

And gotten scarring, yeah.

Because those needles puncture on the way in, they kind of tear on the way out with a lot of those rollers.

Okay, good.

Yeah, you know, because we, Sage and I, when we first started our business, we had a girl working with us, beautiful, early 20s.

And she discovered derma rolling.

And I'm not kidding you, in three years, she had completely destroyed her skin.

It looked absolutely terrible.

And she was actually developing these scars.

But I wanna go back to some of these topicals.

I mean, you have a skincare line, but I wanna go back to some of these topicals

what exosomes are doing in the skin and why these biologics... I'm going to come to the biologics and formulation in a minute.

Really?

They can literally send this signal to the, wow, that's fantastic.

Yeah, and by bioavailability you mean that that exosome is still viable enough to perform its function, right?

They're not really living things but they can also be inert because they're destroyed by heat or what have you.

And I hear the terms collagen, elastin and fibrin.

Obviously these are all involved in the scaffolding of the skin, the structure of the skin.