Gary Brecka

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like just chumming for sharks in your case.

Yeah, I've interviewed a few of the greats and like the, what you really begin to respect at that level is the amount of strategy and thinking that goes into it.

You know, I've heard Dana White talk about the difference between being a good fighter and a great fighter is composure.

And I imagine the hardest time to maintain your composure is when somebody's

actively trying to hurt you.

And it's also hard to not get pissed off.

Pain just immediately causes you to flick your switch, especially when somebody else inflicted.

If you cut it on your board, you're not actually angry.

I mean, when you were surfing, did you ever have those moments where you picked up the board and walked to the edge of the ocean and you just looked at the waves and you're like...

I'm over this.

Like, did it ever become a notness?

I've done so many things in my life that I was really excited about when I started.

Like, you know, I was a competitive amateur triathlete for,

two years, three years.

But I got out of the water one time after the Chesapeake Bay half Ironman.

And when I got home, I put my bike on the garage wall and I didn't get back on my bike for like three years.

I was just over it.

And by no means did I have even remotely the level of commitment

that someone like yourself went through for decades to stay at the top of that game and wanna do the same thing and not ever feel like you've mastered the sport because at some point you have to feel like,