Gary Brecka

To drive one of those big vans.

They fired his ass on the spot.

You know, I did a great podcast with Matt and I was really impressed with that guy's journey, you know, basically from, and I'm not saying anything that he hasn't said on the podcast, but basically from a trailer park.

He grew up in a trailer, very abusive father, watched his mother get her teeth knocked out by her father one day in a drunken rage and went into the military, into the National Guard.

sort of collectively got his shit together.

And then he found running, just as you were talking about, as a mental health, you know, antidote.

And he just locked into that.

And when he said when he started, he didn't even really know what he was doing, how therapeutic it would be.

And he locked into that and just longer and longer distances.

I think he's the only human being to cross Texas in both directions.

He went north-south and then he went east-west.

But again, you know, parachuting into that event and seeing how there's probably 30 people in that support group

food, nutrition, aid stations, first aid.

You know, you had medics.

You had the whole thing figured out.

And that side of the race went off without a hitch.

But there was a moment during that race, because I think 100 miles is such a big, bold, audacious goal.

I mean, if you've never in a marathon and felt that post-marathon pain or even a half marathon and felt that pain cave, you might not know what it's like to be in, we call it the pain cave, where...

Like every aspect of your mind is telling you not to take another step.

Your brain even starts to mess with you a little bit.