Gary Brecka

And I want to be sure that I emphasize it's not stuffy.

It feels very respectful.

And I noticed that

Everyone seems to adopt this.

And with such a small portion of the population and leadership having such a massive vision, how do you bring these two things together?

Because I think, you know, this is very, and I like the way that the Sheikh wrote his book, the CEO Sheikh, you know, running the country like a business.

And, you know, this country feels like a business, not in the sense that it's very corporate, but it's very organized.

The execution of everything from transportation to construction, to food service, to safety, to me, since I've been here, it's been flawless.

You know, the other morning we,

we were part of the 30-30 bike ride.

Yes.

And it was such a surreal moment to be on a bike, you know, going through the center of downtown Dubai, you know, five or eight lanes of traffic wide closed.

Tens of thousands of people there.

The sun was coming up over the city.

The Museum of the Future, this beautiful museum that's in your background was still lit.

You could still see it.

And I turned to my podcast manager and I was like, you know, we should be really present right now and just take this all in.

It was such a,

unique surreal moment and i think it's a metaphor for good leadership in business too because you know i've been to the dubai frame and you get a uh a vision there you know this is a tourist attraction but it's a frame that you know separates old dubai from new dubai and um by the way whoever developed that floor that's in there is that was a that was a sick joke because it's it's it's completely non-see-through and then you step on it and it goes clear yes yes and you're 400

feet in the air.