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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
These are important issues, and there's another timeline where AI leaders are cut from the same cloth as America's elected officials, but we're in a world where Anthropic has to make their case,
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
for safety in an age of RSI during a UFC fight on the White House lawn.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
It's a very bizarre timeline, but here we are.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Most of the big tech CEOs, they have figured out how to work with the administration effectively, showing up to large dinners, photo ops, the occasional movie screening to make their case about hot topics.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Many of these CEOs also have business relationship with Anthropic, either on the customer side or on the investor side.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
That's what's really complicated about the Amazon relationship.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Obviously, Amazon uses Anthropic models, also is an investor in Anthropic, also provides compute to Anthropic.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
And so they have a very hairy, complex, circular relationship.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
And so that clouds the discussion over whether or not is Anthropic going to try and help Anthropic get through this?
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Are they doing everything above board?
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
At the same time, people were sort of putting out that like, oh, did Amazon spike the ball on this?
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
And at the same time, if the government comes to you and asks like,
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Hey, you're a big tech company.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
You've been using this model a lot.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Were you able to jailbreak it at all?
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
And your security team just issued a report like, yeah, we actually were able to jailbreak it a little bit.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
Like you're not going to withhold that from the government.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
You're going to turn that over.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
That's different than calling and saying, hey, I really think it's dangerous.
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Freedom 250 Recap with Bo Nickal, The Hand Anthropic Was Dealt, Fox Buys Roku | Bo Nickal, Gavin Baker, Leif Abraham, Aaron Ginn, Rafael Vivas
You got to put pressure on them.