Gavin Baker

This is a big question.

We have Aaron Ginn from Hydrohost joining in just 10 minutes.

We'll ask him for his perspective on this.

Four, the US needs to issue restrictions that are actually enforceable and US citizens only doesn't fit that bill.

That's a good point.

You might have some KYC, but it's very difficult when these APIs leak into other products.

All of a sudden, you're prompting a model within a piece of SaaS.

We've seen this with, you go to Slackbot in Slack, Salesforce product.

There's an AI model under the hood that's vended in by Anthropic or OpenAI, depending on the deal, depending on the product.

And that now needs to be passed along to understand, is this a US citizen on the other end of the line?

Let's find out.

Furthermore, markets and everything, it is easy enough to hire a traitorous American to access tools of wrongdoing.

That's a really good point.

How can you verify that every American is loyal?

Or for a matter, it is not that difficult to fake citizenship in various ways.

Yeah, there's a very controversial story of Virgil Griffith, a cryptocurrency researcher who I actually met once.

He worked at Caltech, was deep in math, and very excited about cryptocurrency, and he went and gave a talk on cryptocurrency in North Korea, explaining how cryptocurrency works and how cryptography works, and that was seen as a violation of export controls, and he was sent to prison.

And the crypto community is very upset about that because they maintain that math should not be illegal.

This information should not be illegal.

The government side is helping.