Gavin de Becker

And how they debunked it, I'll talk about in a minute because it's funny.

But what is the Institute of Medicine?

Well, everybody knows that's a big, important, revered organization all about science, part of the National Academies of Science, government organization.

Guess what?

Private organization.

not a government organization.

The Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences, both completely private organizations, sometimes funded by government and sometimes funded by pharma.

And so they debunked it, and the way they debunked it is by having the same way they used for Agent Orange.

So why I want to talk about Agent Orange for a second.

Is the long answer okay?

Sure.

Okay.

If I can even remember the question.

But here's the Agent Orange piece.

It's good for people to hear because they're not emotional about it, right?

They're emotional about AIDS.

They're very emotional about vaccines and COVID and what have you.

But Agent Orange people have pretty much forgotten about.

What happens is Agent Orange is used to defoliate forests and jungles in Vietnam.

But it's actually a chemical weapon.