Gavin de Becker

But, you know, to make a prosecution work, I reached a bit to get somebody, some bad guy who was trying to kill a client involved.

you know, prosecuted or in custody for a longer period of time.

I was in many meetings where the questions were, this thing happened, not how shall we tell the public, but what shall we tell the public?

How shall we spin this thing?

This is the norm in every corporate boardroom in America.

It's not, oh, there's cancer-causing asbestos in the baby powder.

I guess we better let everybody know.

That's not the meeting.

The meeting is let's notify the FDA and say it's under study.

And so if we get asked, we'll get through this thing.

Who goes to jail, by the way, in these corporations for the shit they do?

Opioids, et cetera.

My God, 100,000 people dying from heart attacks from a pain pill, for example.

Vioxx, for God's sake.

I mean, it's unbelievable, and nobody gets in trouble.

right?

Companies are fined.

Do you know what the fines mean to these companies?

In that new book, I gave you forbidden facts.

I lay out what all the pharma companies have been fined criminally, what it cost them and what they made nonetheless, right?