Gavin de Becker

You take away those experiences and you don't have someone who grows up wanting nothing more than to write these books for free and sell them for free and get them published for free like Forbidden Facts, the current book.

in order to help people deal with these issues of skepticism, of fear, et cetera.

You don't get somebody doing what I do, where my ambition is long gone.

My ambition for more anything, more money, more houses.

Well, houses I might still slip on, but now it's about service to other people.

Wasn't always.

But it was service to other people because I believe that public life includes you.

If all you do is give me a bad example, that's service.

If you give me a good example, that's a prettier form of service.

Maybe it's a nicer job you got, but ultimately all of it is service.

Everything that we can observe of people in public life and people in our private lives, it's all service.

You know, I remember a friend of mine telling me he went back home for Thanksgiving and he saw his whole family.

And he said he learned to only stay for one day.

He said, because all the shit happened on the second day with his family if he stayed for two days.

And he also learned to stay in a hotel.

I said, oh, you're staying at home?

He said, oh, fun.

No, never.

Never stay at home.

Because here was this group of people.