Gavin de Becker

I mean, I send something back to a friend of mine and say, I think that's bullshit.

I don't think the dog actually jumped up on the top shelf and did that such and such.

I don't buy it.

And then you look at it a few more times.

But this is good for us.

Because what it brings us to is whatever we think is real, touch, taste, the feelings, tears, nature, whatever we think it is, I believe that's where I want to be.

That's where I want to spend my time.

Yes, I think it's good to, I think it's spiritually good for us to redefine reality, as opposed to, take me back 20 years in my life and possibly yours, what did I believe?

Everything the government said.

Every official narrative.

Why wouldn't I believe it?

Well, I have such a negative view of big centralized institutions.

Because I think what happens when you—a very good number of people to live together is about 300.

And what I base that on is Fiji, where I live a lot, villages are about 300 people.

There's a chief.

who lives with them.

He doesn't get special treatment.

He's not carried around in a gold chariot.

He's got to eat the same food they do.

And he is generally benevolent because the beauty of the Fijian village, and I encourage you to go and all your viewers to go.