Gavin de Becker

I'm not you know, I happen to love America, but I'm not saying it's just America.

It's you know, this is the nature of espionage and the nature of war.

But I want to answer your question about is it just because of no oversight?

The United States doesn't end wars very often.

For example, World War Two ends and you're all excited about it and you're mounting things and you're doing all this stuff.

And then it ends.

And everybody's like, hey, but we were really into this thing.

And so we don't let them end.

We leave 300,000 troops in Germany, 300,000 troops in Japan, hundreds of thousands of troops in South Korea.

Why don't we bring these people home?

If the war is over, the war is over.

But that's not how empire works.

And so the U.S.

tends to continue these wars in Japan.

The versions I just described to you, which is more secret versions.

And it's it's dark, man.

I mean, if somebody and maybe somebody has.

But if somebody came into America and did a bunch of terrorist incidents in America that killed a lot of Americans.

oh, geez, let's reflect on whether that's ever happened.

But anyway, if that happened, we'd be stressed.