Gavin de Becker

And rightfully, we'd have a lot to complain about.

But it goes on.

And it's kind of my theme for today is sharing these things that are all available on Wikipedia.

I'm not making them up.

They're all real.

And I looked at them from the point of view of a criminologist where I really lay out

The evidence and my purpose, my reason for doing this today with you, also in a book, my reason is that I really want to encourage Americans to be skeptical because if you don't have skepticism, the government runs us.

We don't run the government.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's where we are for sure.

There was, I know you already know about Project Mockingbird,

But Project Knockingbird had hundreds of American journalists who were in some cases directly on the payroll of CIA and in other cases just had great relationships and would float ideas inside the United States.

It was shut down by the church committee, Senate committee.

But was it really shut down or did it just change its name?

Because the reality is that today, unlike in the past, all information is international.

So if you start floating information overseas that's not true, it's going to make its way to America.

And does it make sense to do this?

I remember when I was working on an investigation involving Saudi Arabia and their use of Twitter, misuse of Twitter.

Twitter ended up canceling like 5,000 of their accounts because they were fake, you know, bots.

But they were using Twitter to be able to float things so that they would become viral and become important.