Gemma Mitchell

It's just the, I knew that.

I could do that.

And he has had lots of those and generally most clients do.

So that has been just a massive highlight, just seeing – I know we're going to talk about it later in the episode, but just some quick wins that were massive weight on his shoulders that –

weren't actually at all when we stripped them away and we just like quickly got them off the list.

So yeah, always, always just seeing those aha moments and the pressure kind of just lift a bit.

That's a common thing though.

The tax bills?

Yes.

So when people first go into business and then they get the accountant goes, hey, here's the tax bill.

And they're like, what?

So that was one thing when he was saying it and he felt a bit silly about it.

I was like, I see this over and over again.

So while his situation is pretty extreme, like when you listen to the episode, if you haven't already, people will be like, these are big numbers.

This is big money that he kind of talks about.

But most of the things actually relate to everyday people regardless of the amount.

So that's what I really liked about him is his problems and what he perceives as problems, they're magnified because they're like on bigger scales in some instances, but they're problems that everyday people face.

So I've actually, I wrote down some key things that he said.

So I wrote them in the first like meeting that I had with him.

So one, I got him to rate his financial health.