Gemma Spake

They see them more or they see them only as what they used to be.

And that makes it hard for them to kind of challenge assumptions.

It also gives them less room to experiment.

Experimentation

in itself is extraordinary.

And I think actually gives you more choice down the line because you've explored the what-ifs.

You've had more diverse experiences and more opportunities for learning than someone who found success in the first thing they ever did,

probably don't have that.

Not to bag on them, obviously.

They're very impressive people.

I personally know people who are like Forbes 30 under 30.

I think they're fantastic and they're very nice.

But you actually do have a freedom they don't have.

You have reputational freedom to be whatever you want to be when you want to be it, not just when you're 20 and not just at something that's going to follow you around for the rest of your life.

Again, being extraordinary may be aspirational and

It is no guarantee of happiness.

And there's a lot of people, I mean, a lot of people who are probably on your vision boards or who come to my mind and would come to your mind when we are asked to describe an exceptional or extraordinary person who are deeply, deeply miserable and who cannot have fun, cannot fail, cannot explore the way that you can as a novice.

i also think there's a lot more that matters for our happiness and health than being the best let's talk about it some more after this short break

There's a lot more that matters for our happiness and health than being the best.

And the biggest one that comes to my mind is our relationships.