George Butler

I imagine, Steve, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not the easiest time to be a futurist right now.

I mean, we are seeing obviously things change literally day by day, week by week.

And it's quite difficult to look too far ahead into the future.

But clearly, that's part of your job.

And businesses are wanting you to look ahead and predict trends and see what's happening in two, three, four, five, six years.

How hard of a job is that right now?

So if I'm going to... I'm going to get you to get that crystal ball out.

But in order to look two or three years ahead, so if you had to pick kind of one really important trend for...

individuals and one really important trend for businesses over the next two to three years, something that you think is going to cause quite a seismic change to the way that we live, the way we operate.

What would you go with?

We're starting to see it, aren't we?

We're starting to see it right now.

Just the other day we were talking about graduation ceremonies.

I'm sure you saw those videos of the young people booing.

So we're starting to see it, aren't we?

My final question, Steve, is just on that, because we've talked at length about how these businesses are going to make enough money to cover the billions of investment dollars being spent in them.

How do these companies and can these companies get to a place where they can justify the amount of capital being invested into them?

Amazing.

Steve, it's been an absolute pleasure.

Thank you so much for joining us on the show.