George Butler

I genuinely love the fact we did actually steal someone's trophy just so we could have a photo with it.

How sad and pathetic.

Did you enjoy your first Arias Awards at the Camden Roundhouse?

I thought it was awesome.

Next year, well, we won't be eligible for new presenters next year, but hey, maybe something else.

What's going on?

Yeah, it's not great, is it?

I've been a radio presenter for 10 years.

You come around and in one year I'm nominated for an ARIA award for best EAs.

I should just say very quickly, I had the great pleasure at the Arias of meeting radio goddess Sally Traffic.

If you know, you know, all I'm going to say is legend, legend.

Now, it's very apt that we're talking all things audio because today's episode sees the return of probably, possibly...

Our most controversial guest to date.

Certainly up there.

Janine Wright first joined the show last year.

Now, Janine, she was an audio biz exec, right?

So Janine decided to kind of jump traditional audio into the tech game and was part of Inception Point AI's creation.

And this is a business which we talked to Janine about when she was on the show last time.

They are using AI to create technology.

start to finish audio podcasts and products so there is no humans involved in any of the creation of what they produce so uh it's it's not even a prompt the ai literally decides a topic it creates the content an ai bot then presents the show and it is released uh there is no human listening in checking the quality it's end-to-end ai now uh it's fair to say james