George Butler

Whilst a fascinating lady, a talented, skilled entrepreneur, Janine is fairly controversial.

Now, Janine was over in the UK for the podcast show, which is the big trade event for podcasts.

Interestingly, it sounded like at one of Janine's sessions, she kind of had a heckler kind of calling her out for what she does, really.

As you say, she is a figure that causes a bit of controversy.

But look, we're no strangers to exploring new ideas, new views, debating them on this podcast.

So when we found out Janine was back in the UK, we invited her into the studios.

I was at another event in Brighton.

So James, you sat down.

Well, I was NFI'd.

You sat down and had the conversation with Janine.

I mean, anything you would set up before we hear it?

Well, I do.

And I've heard the interview.

You know, we get to hear from Janine.

She puts her case out there.

We get her point of view, which is interesting to hear, no matter how you feel about it.

But yeah, from someone who works in audio industry,

And someone who deeply cares about creativity.

I don't believe in a lot of what Janine says.

You know that.