Gerald Butts

That there are two this this aphorism has been so become so popular.

I've seen many people claim credit for it.

But I know she said it to me when I was in my 20s asking her about Dalton McGinty.

She said there are two kinds of people in politics, people who want to be something and people who want to do something.

And if he's one of the latter, then he deserves your help.

And if he's one of the former, he doesn't.

And I think there's no substitute for that.

Wobb has a very clear idea of what he wants to do.

I think James is probably right.

It's got a shelf life.

But I can tell you from my experience, that shelf life will be longer the deeper your conviction is.

I'll say, Peter, that I just resisted the urge to cheaply triple your viewership by picking up my dog who just came in.

He's the cutest dog in the world.

But, no, listen, I agree with all that.

Well, he's an interesting case study, though, right?

I remember having dinner with John Podesta, who was chair of Hillary Clinton's campaign toward the end of September in the 2016 election period.

We were in New York for the UN General Assembly.

And he was...

You know, the strategy they pursued, and I don't think John ultimately agreed with it because he chaired the campaign.

He wasn't the director.