Gerald Butts

I've heard him be very direct with people.

And maybe sometimes they experience that as yelling.

But he's not a man who raises his voice, at least not in my experience.

Well, as usual, possession is nine-tenths of the law, Peter.

And I think the real challenge that everybody's facing with AI who is not in either the United States and China is how do you keep up with that technological advancement, with the technological advancements that are happening in both of those countries?

I personally think that there's a...

a potential very substantial role for this to help from a content perspective, fill out the middle power strategy that the, that the prime minister articulated at the world economic forum this year.

And I know, I know why people are nervous about it.

Believe me, I have a, well, a one teenager.

Now my son just turned 20 and it's kind of a terrifying technology.

And I think you, you put this together with climate change and, and,

The next 10 years are going to be one of the most interesting, to use the word diplomatically, decades in human history.

And I think that there's been an understandable backlash against this technology, especially but not exclusively on the left, and especially but not exclusively in the United States.

This is all happening, right?

There's nothing the government of Canada can do to stop the advent of this technology.

We are in a position where we either have to build our own assets so that we can have a greater chance of controlling its positive and negative outcomes, not as a government, but as a country, or we're gonna have the terms of it dictated to us by someone else.

And that, to me, given the justifiable anxiety that the general public feels, and just to put it in perspective for our listeners, AI is viewed most negatively by two countries, the United States and Canada.

In my own view, the reason for that is that the ghoulish figures that are leading the movement in the United States have become such caricatures of James Bond villains, whether it's Peter Thiel or Elon Musk or whomever.

Name your favorite tech bro or least favorite tech bro in this case.

Yeah.