Gerard Whateley

You were totally vindicated in everything that you had told us.

You set us up for it beautifully and then lived the journey of the night.

Terrific, Kenny.

Always appreciate it.

The art of coaching.

Have a great weekend and we'll talk to you.

I'm trying to think if we're together on the weekend or not.

How did you take in what came from the AFL yesterday?

There's tension pieces in a few places here, and one of them is what happened when the soft cap was reduced around COVID and whether the care for players, both medical and in the mental space, was compromised as a result when that wasn't fully restored.

What's your perception there?

Yeah.

What's been built into these recommendations has the potential to be profound.

What needs to happen with the soft cap to actually bring it to fruition, do you think?

Should the medical spends be removed from the soft cap?

Yeah.

What layer of trust do you have that in the long term, when we look back in several years' time and all this is implemented, that it will have proven a benefit to every player in the competition or that it will be bureaucratic and onerous and costly?

And this goes to your overall point of sidelining the coach from the toughest of circumstances is the wrong strategy.

NRL went to Golden Point in 2003, Vossie.

The AFL has stayed with the draw.

It's a charming part that people guard jealously, whilst there are those of us who, when it happened, now go, let's play till we get a winner here.