Gideon Lewis-Kraus

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557 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 27 Feb

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And presumably they expect these companies to follow the terms of the agreement that they have.
But beyond that, it's sort of out of their hands how these companies are using these systems that they've developed.
Well, I think it was clear probably even about a year ago that there were going to be some tensions, that many of the members of the Trump administration, including Trump's AI czar, David Sachs, the venture capitalist, and Pete Hegseth more recently,
had expressed reservations about Anthropic's willingness to allow the government to use the models the way that the government saw fit.
And one of the ways that Dario Amadei, the CEO of Anthropic, has dealt with these competing pressures, both the pressure to develop these systems safely and responsibly and also to
compete in a very aggressive marketplace.
He talks about the race to the top, meaning that he hopes that if they can show that their systems are safer and more responsible than other systems, that there will be market discipline that will be enforced and will force their competitors to rise to the occasion.
Now, the problem is, I'm not sure he anticipated the fact that if the government and the Defense Department are among their customers, that our government has not shown a
great tendencies to participate in races to the top, rather to the contrary.
My first impression is that there's really not a lot of personality at the company.
I've spent a lot of time at places like Google over the years, and at least in certain earlier iterations, Google could kind of look like adult daycare with board games set out and climbing walls and candy and everything.
Special nap rooms.
Anthropic really has none of that stuff, all of which I think would seem like a distraction to them.
Anthropic, as I said in the piece, kind of radiates the personality of a Swiss bank.
There's not much to look at.
They took over a turnkey lease from the messaging company Slack about 18 months ago.
It seems like they removed anything interesting to look at.
So there's very little to describe from the inside of the company.
And I was kind of whisked right away to one of the two floors where they allow outside visitors and had very gracious and gentle and firm PR minders for my time while I was there.
Well, this was not the first time that one group of people decided that another group of people was not to be entrusted with the development of what will potentially be the most powerful technology ever developed if it comes to fruition.
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