Gideon Lewis-Kraus

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557 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 27 Feb

Gideon Lewis-Kraus’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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There's been so much reporting about Sam Altman's sensible double dealing and talking out of both sides of his mouth, like telling his employees he cared about safety and then like maybe telling Microsoft other things when they were setting up these big deals.
And so then in the fall of 2020, Dario Amadei and his sister Daniela and five other people leave OpenAI to found Anthropic.
basically to be a foil to OpenAI in the way that OpenAI was, like, supposed to be a foil to Google.
Now, the irony of this was, like, certainly not lost on any of these people.
Like, they weren't naive about this.
But I think it's important, yes, there are some kind of, like, obvious structural and cosmetic similarities here.
I do think it's important in telling the story to make it clear that I don't think people had the same obvious doubts about how genuine the pitch was when Anthropic formed.
It's the same story insofar as it's like, we're going to be the safety-minded lab.
We're not going to push the boundaries of capability.
We're not going to build the most sophisticated models.
We're not going to start the arms race.
But then, as it turns out, if you want to exercise maximal scrutiny of what these models are and how they work, you need state-of-the-art models, which means you need the money to build them.
And so, of course, now Anthropic's valuation seems to go up by the week.
Like, the most recent one, I think, this morning was, like, $380 billion because this is just something that's incredibly resource-intensive.
So they ended up in a position where, like, of course, as probably anyone could have predicted, like, there was this arms race.
And, like, now they're in this position of being like, well, we still want to be, like, the responsible stewards, but also, like, we got to keep up with our Wario version across town.
Yeah, I mean, the criticism from the really hardcore Orthodox anti-safety community is sort of like, Anthropic will do anything
to act responsibly as long as it doesn't cost them anything.
I don't actually think that's fair.
You know, like, Claude was ready before ChatGPT came out, and they held it because they didn't want to be the ones to, like, kick this off, and they waited until after ChatGPT was out and successful, and then they felt like they had to come out with their own competitor.
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