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Giles Milton

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
390 total appearances

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Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Such was the value of this spice.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And this is where the story really revolves around this, because nutmeg in the 1600s only grew on six islands in the world.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And these islands, known as the Banda Islands or the Banda Archipelago, are impossibly remote.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They are literally in the middle of nowhere.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

To sort of paint a picture, they're 1,200 miles east of Java, if people can place that on a map.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They're 600 miles west of Australia.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Yeah, that's the nearest place, Papua New Guinea.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But even today, they're extremely hard to get to.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But in the 1600s, you know, when you're sailing in a wooden ship halfway across the world, they were not only difficult to get to, but extremely dangerous to get to because you're contending...

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

not only with the elements, with the storms, with monsoons, with reefs, with sunken reefs, but you're also contending with the Portuguese, the Spanish and, of course, the Dutch, none of whom want you to find these islands and kind of break the monopoly that they're trying to carve out on this space.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They do.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And they're very, very fussy trees.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So they require a particular type of volcanic soil.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They require a particular microclimate, which is why they were confined to these islands.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And it was extremely difficult, actually, to try and transplant these plants.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Just to paint a little picture of the tree, because most people won't have seen one.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They're very, very beautiful.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They look rather like a lemon tree.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And in fact, the nutmeg fruit is this beautiful lemony golden fruit that hangs off the tree.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And it's inside that fruit.