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Giles Milton

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

You break open the flesh and inside you have this withered little nut, which is a nutmeg, which is entirely surrounded by a very beautiful, bright red, lacy sort of thing, which is mace, which is very similar in taste and flavour, in fact.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They come from exactly the same fruit, yeah.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

The nut is covered in this stuff, yeah, in the mace.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Can you eat it or not?

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Nutmeg obviously used in cooking, mace is used in cooking as well.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And of course, the flesh of the fruit in the Bandar Islands is made into sort of jams and marmalades and chutneys and things like that.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So every bit of the fruit can be used.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And it should be said that these six islands in the Bandar Islands, they are entirely, or they were entirely covered in forests and groves of nutmeg trees.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And the smell...

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

The scent of these trees is quite extraordinary.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So when you're on a boat approaching these islands, hanging in the air is this almost kind of extraordinary perfume.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

That pungent smell of nutmeg hangs in the air.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So they're magical places.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But as we will hear, they were also extremely dangerous places.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So yeah, it was about less than one English penny would get you 10 pounds of nutmeg.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So a kind of sack full of nutmeg.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

That would sell for something like two pounds and 10 shillings when you brought it back on the three-year voyage back to England.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

The markup is absolutely staggering, whopping.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

I mean, what Bondi corporation wouldn't want a markup of 60,000%?

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

This is why, you know, to bring back even a small amount