Gordon Carrera

Yeah, I think that's right.

You've got to make some pretty hard calculations as of other kind of leaders and other officials in other countries in that hemisphere.

So we'll, you know, I guess that is probably a good place to wrap it up.

I mean, make sure you're following us on Instagram at The Rest Is Classified as we'll try and put out some more updates to this story if they emerge in the kind of next few days.

I doubt this will be our last emergency podcast, though, David.

Somehow I doubt it, Gordon.

Somehow I doubt it.

Yes.

I think we're going back to history, I think, next week.

We should be doing the story of Britain's kind of most famous and remarkable traitor, Kim Philby, a man, an MI6 officer who sold his soul to the Soviet Union, the KGB.

But who knows?

Before that comes out, we might have to kind of do another series on something else that happens.

Who knows in this kind of wild world we're in?

Buy an American journalist for a British newspaper.

Buy an American journalist for a British newspaper.

Buy an American journalist for a British newspaper.

He's bringing stuff to light, David, rather than darkness.

He's bringing stuff to light, David, rather than darkness.

He's bringing stuff to light, David, rather than darkness.

It is a massive one. The world doesn't yet know that the source for this article is Edward Snowden. All they get is this remarkable story. I remember it dropping and thinking, where has this come from? It just felt so unusual as a story. We should explain what it was and why it's so significant.