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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

They're going to find the weapons and they're going to disarm him or they're going to find that he's hiding stuff and then that will help justify the war.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So they think they've trapped Saddam with this resolution.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But as we'll see, I think the US and particularly the UK are the ones who are going to be trapped.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So the idea is Saddam has to cooperate with these inspectors.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

It's a kind of test for him to show whether he's going to be able to cooperate.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But the expectation is that he'll fail.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And then that will build support.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

The hawks in Washington, as you said, Dick Cheney and the like, see these inspections as a mistake.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

They're going to divert the US away from the war they just want to get on with.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And the idea is that then when Saddam frustrates the inspectors or they find something, then there'll potentially be a new UN resolution authorizing action against Saddam, which everyone can get behind and everything's going to be fine.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

That's the idea.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Spoiler alert, it's not going to work out that way.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

How do you come clean to something you don't have?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And so I think it's worth going back to Saddam, isn't it?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because I think that's what's so interesting is Saddam as a character in this story because...

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

As we get to the end of 2002, Saddam is going to decide, well, I'm going to let the inspectors back in.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

He's been told by France and Russia that, you know, that's what he should do.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And he kind of listens to them.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And then again, we get one of these meetings.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I love these meetings of Saddam's Revolutionary Command Council, you know, where he gathers all his top aides.